Dont get me wrong either. I love dave Vedder. Without being gay or blowing sunshine up anybodys butts. His books are very informal and I love his approach on every subject i have read on. i have read many of his books and he has helped me become a better float fisherman by far. But i love a good discussion. dave made very valid points. I was only stating that as an affiliate of STS he probably has a biased opinion. As a reader of many years i have a totally different point of view on the subject. I probably could have said it alot better than i did . i meant no disrespect to anyone. Like i said before ( tear in eye) i love all you guys. i honestly do. Even Myrens. i love peoples point of view because it helps shape my opinions on everything. it makes me think about daily issues rather than just go along with the flow.

Thank you every one. Be rude, tell me like it is and i will continue to love all of you.
and i hope that no one thinks that i mean any harm or disrespect in my comments. Especially Dave Vedder its all in the fun of discussing.